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 (09-010.06-F) -  Shelf Number: MDV 382

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Date: May 14, 2008

Participants: Sklyarskiy, Semyon Moiseyevich; Listengurt, Sima Moiseyevna. Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Moyshe Lemster and Jeffrey Veidlinger.

Location recorded: Bershad'; Odesa, Vinnyts'ka Oblast'; Odes'ka Oblast', Ukraine

Language: Yiddish, Russian

Culture Group: Jews, Yiddish-speakers, Ukrainians

 Recording Content:   

The first part of the recording is the continuation of a formal interview with Semyon (Shloyme, Solomon) Moiseyevich Sklyarskiy, born 1926 in Zhornyshche. (Part 2 of 2. See MDV 381) He continues his story of how he survived the massacre of the Jews of Zhornysche during World War II and how he joined the partisans. He then tells of his life after the war. He worked as a bookkeeper.

The second part of the recording is a formal interview in Odesa with Sima (Sima Ilinichna) Moiseyevna Listengurt, born 1932 in Odesa. The team interviews Sima Listengurt about Jewish life in Odesa before the war and about the fate of the Jews of Odesa during the war. An unknown woman approaches and speaks with the team about her family's role in saving Jews during the war.

00:00:00 Sklyarskiy talks about his life during World War II. He also mentions his family and explains how he escaped shootings by the Ukrainian police and his return to Zhornyshche. Sklyarskiy mentions mass shootings in the woods of Illintsi and describes his encounters with non-Jewish classmates near the village Luhava, while being injured. He then continues to describes his escape from Zhornyshche, where he encountered his brother.
00:07:26 Sklyarskiy speaks about his family and their fate during World War II. Sklyarskiy also mentions who spent time with him in hiding in March 1943. He then returns to his account of escape from shootings in May 1942, including receiving help from non-Jews.
00:20:08 Sklyarskiy speaks about the episode, when he hid in a pit with other family members with the help of a Ukrainian Christian near the village Ivanki between spring and fall 1943. He describes how he was sold out by locals and daily survival.
00:28:53 Sklyarskiy talks about his life and family after World War II. He returned to Lypovets and mentions that his sister, who served in the Red Army, moved to America after the war. He then returned to his hometown Zhornyshche, before moving to Proskurovka. Sklyarskiy continues that he worked there at a field hospital for three months, before moving west with a Red Army field hospital to several towns in Poland and Germany. Sklyarskiy joined his sister who had been working at the front. He states that he was rejected at a military draft in Kyiv due to his injury, whereas his brother (i.e. cousin) was accepted and fought at the front.
00:34:05 Sklyarskiy speaks about his life after the war. He and his sister moved to Vinnytsya, where he completed accountant courses. Sklyarskiy worked as an accountant in several towns, including Dzhulinka and Kitaygorod. He was married in Bershad in 1951.
00:35:42 Sklyarskiy talks about his family and shows photographs. He has family in Israel. Sklyarskiy also speaks about his wedding and returns to his life during the war. In particular, he addresses the period when he joined the partisans and was injured. Sklyarskiy then mentions his military awards and recognition from his Ukrainian neighbors. Sklyarskiy raised two sons, one of whom lives in Israel, and as well as one daughter.
00:41:00 Sklyarskiy addresses his life today and charity by the local community. He then returns to discussing his family.
00:43:31 The team meets Listengurt and informally speaks with her, before setting up the formal interview. She speaks about contemporary life and work today in Odesa.
00:44:30 Listengurt speaks prewar Jewish buildings, as well as Jewish life in Odesa during World War II. She mentions, in particular, an event of forced gathering and execution of the local community. Listengurt also speaks about a specific family who escaped.
00:48:43 Listengurt touches upon her family's return to Odesa in 1944. An unidentified woman then joins the conversastion and speaks about her family's role in saving Jews during the war.
00:53:36 Listengurt speaks about life today.
00:54:25 End of recording.